12/18/2023 0 Comments Case 850 dozer vs cat![]() Do you need to move materials, clamp onto logs or similar, crawler loader with 4 in one may be in order. I've run most brands this size and some may stand out better than others, but condition, parts support, really are the key factors in making a good purchase that will serve you well.Īre you working in the woods, if so, a stout R.O.P.S, limb risers and brush cage might be in order. D3 is a nice smaller grading tractor, I've ran plenty of those, also light enough to transport, and I have seen on occasion some of the early ones in nice shape that I'd have no problem owning and using.ģ50 and 450 JD's are certainly small grading tractors, that you can easily hall, easier to work on, being small, as well as undercarriage replacement costs being less, not the most powerful, but they do perform just fine. I like D3's and D4's spanning many years, older ones now that I ran when new, all performed well for a variety of tasks, you should assess your needs and use that to decide what suits your purpose. You should be looking at several different things on these, should be able to demo it up to operating temperature if at all possible. You can see some things and suspect same on an undercarriage, but you need to measure each component and do the math comparing against what new specifications were for the tractor to calculate the actual percentage worn, never buy into a verbal on that, its just not worth it.Īn experienced equipment mechanic, crawler mechanic etc, would be worth paying to help find the right tractor in the condition that is acceptable for the price being asked. One thing that I try to emphasize is undercarriage condition, percentage of wear etc. It may be of help along with all the other comments about same, there are some in here that know the mechanical aspects of these well beyond me, probably forgot more than I'll ever know LOL ! ![]() I have posted in detail about important things to look for on a crawler here more than once, you may be able to do a search for an older post of mine. (power angle tilt) though a 4 in one bucket is a handy tool to have on the front, not so handy for fine grading. Two different animals, crawler loader and a dozer with 6 way P.A.T. But - if the engine or the reverser ever lets go - I'd probably NOT fix it. Or if bigger and newer - a CAT.īy the way, I've got a 1960 Deere 1010 crawler loader and love it. I was a Deere mechanic for many years, but my choice for an older crawler would favor a Case due to parts availability and simplicity. They tend to get loose where the trans case meets the reverser case and both cases and main shafts get ruined. I come across many that are basically runing good but "beyond repair" in any cost-effective way. If you get serious about a Deere - especially a 350 - you'd better look VERY close. I recently bought new rollers for $80 each (from Korea of all places). All gear drive, no steering clutches, a popular engine, etc. 188 diesel, no steering clutches to worry about, 6 way blade, and all the undercarriage parts available. I needed a crawler small enough to trailer with my Ford F250 and got a Case 310G. For a bigger 6 ton crawler (including blade) it's hard to beat an AC HD5 as a "farm dozer" that is built with easily found generic parts IF you can get along with a hand-clutch. Parts are getting scarce for even popular crawlers like Deere 350s. Much depends on the condition of what you buy. Re: Looking for a farm dozer in reply to AnotherBPuller, 11-06-2013 09:45:24 I would agree with JD Maris on the 350's and 450's, I've run those and a 1010, condition is important, Case seems to be the better bet, parts availability and operation costs associated, seems their older crawlers have decent parts support, or it appeared that way. This outfit had 2 identical 850's easy haul on a tandem tag trailer,(8 wheel)with air brakes, I would assume, but have never hauled the 450, even lighter, would seem a one ton properly equipped with appropriate trailer, should be ok to move one, don't quote me, numbers don't lie, but my long winded talk may LOL !!! (not intentional - stand to be corrected) I do recall the 850 case much better, say late 80s vintage, aside from the small steering levers on a pedestal, just something to get used to, from pushing off fill, grading and or cutting, I liked the 850 Case. I have ran 450 Case, but a long time ago, never spent a lot of time on it, but one outfit I worked for had several brands in their fleet, and it was interesting to me as an operator, to try each one out when it was on the job I was assigned, a couple of us operators would volunteer to switch from machines we were assigned, so we were good on anything they owned. ![]() I forget actual weight, but those are smaller, lighter and sometimes thats just the right size for a lot of types of work. Re: Looking for a farm dozer in reply to AnotherBPuller, 11-08-2013 17:36:09 ![]()
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